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Clarifying a recent ban

Postby Velociraptom » 25 April 2016, 15:57

Greetings Admirals,

As some of you may have already noticed, we banned HERO from our official forums today. He was one of the forums’ most active members, so we felt it best to explain the reasons behind the ban in this post.

We received multiple reports from our NDA testers that HERO had reached out to them outside of the forum, asking them to break their NDAs and share confidential information. After reviewing various chat logs, it was clear that HERO was well aware that he should not have been doing this, and he made repeated references to his ‘network of spies’.

We don’t like to be heavy-handed with the ban hammer, and we’ve always welcomed our forum members to speak their minds freely. However, we draw the line when members knowingly encourage other members to break a legal contract.

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Re: Clarifying a recent ban

Postby Merdrach » 25 April 2016, 16:31

...and nothing of value was lost.

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Re: Clarifying a recent ban

Postby Gerver » 25 April 2016, 16:38

I hope it was not Owl who was "contacted and reported" rofl?

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Re: Clarifying a recent ban

Postby Emperor1G » 25 April 2016, 16:56

wait. so you waited months to take action on a person "trying to get people to break the NDA" until AFTER the game is released, you have his money in hand but AFTER he brings up in very detailed ways the shortcomings and failures of the game? if this was true why wasn't he removed when the NDA was in place, i.e. before the games release?

but you expect us to believe this is just coincidence. I don't know HERO or have any personal interest in what he says or does, but what I see is censorship at its worst, silencing a vocal member of the community who has (correctly) pointed out where this game is deficient, but you're using a weak excuse (at best) as the reason for removing him. As if the PR of this game and its development team/community managers couldn't get any worse. I would have far more respect if you simply came out and warned the community at large that pointing out any bugs, imbalances, or issues with the game will get you banned from the forums. At least then you'd be being honest and upfront.

i also find it reprehensible that THIS is the most we've heard from anyone associated with the company in weeks. No response to the hacking, cheating, matchmaking issues, imbalances, crash reports, single player reseting itself, nothing. But some guy on the forums? THAT is enough to get a response from the company? astounding.
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Re: Clarifying a recent ban

Postby Beernchips » 25 April 2016, 17:03

wait. so you waited months to take action on a person "trying to get people to break the NDA" until AFTER the game is released, you have his money in hand but AFTER he brings up in very detailed ways the shortcomings and failures of the game? if this was true why wasn't he removed when the NDA was in place, i.e. before the games release?

but you expect us to believe this is just coincidence. I don't know HERO or have any personal interest in what he says or does, but what I see is censorship at its worst, silencing a vocal member of the community who has (correctly) pointed out where this game is deficient, but you're using a weak excuse (at best) as the reason for removing him. As if the PR of this game and its development team/community managers couldn't get any worse. I would have far more respect if you simply came out and warned the community at large that pointing out any bugs, imbalances, or issues with the game will get you banned from the forums. At least then you'd be being honest and upfront.

i also find it reprehensible that THIS is the most we've heard from anyone associated with the company in weeks. No response to the hacking, cheating, matchmaking issues, imbalances, crash reports, single player reseting itself, nothing. But some guy on the forums? THAT is enough to get a response from the company? astounding.


Banning someone from forums don t stop him from playing the game. So all your rant about an illuminati plot for keeping 35$ from HERO seems a bit overexagerated
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Re: Clarifying a recent ban

Postby Velociraptom » 25 April 2016, 17:04

Emperor1G wrote:wait. so you waited months to take action on a person "trying to get people to break the NDA" until AFTER the game is released, you have his money in hand but AFTER he brings up in very detailed ways the shortcomings and failures of the game? if this was true why wasn't he removed when the NDA was in place, i.e. before the games release?


We received the reports about Hero over the weekend. We have no interest in censoring or silencing anyone, but encouraging members to break a signed legal document is just not on.

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Re: Clarifying a recent ban

Postby CALiGeR190 » 25 April 2016, 17:05

Emperor1G wrote:wait. so you waited months to take action on a person "trying to get people to break the NDA" until AFTER the game is released, you have his money in hand but AFTER he brings up in very detailed ways the shortcomings and failures of the game? if this was true why wasn't he removed when the NDA was in place, i.e. before the games release?

but you expect us to believe this is just coincidence. I don't know HERO or have any personal interest in what he says or does, but what I see is censorship at its worst, silencing a vocal member of the community who has (correctly) pointed out where this game is deficient, but you're using a weak excuse (at best) as the reason for removing him. As if the PR of this game and its development team/community managers couldn't get any worse. I would have far more respect if you simply came out and warned the community at large that pointing out any bugs, imbalances, or issues with the game will get you banned from the forums. At least then you'd be being honest and upfront.

i also find it reprehensible that THIS is the most we've heard from anyone associated with the company in weeks. No response to the hacking, cheating, matchmaking issues, imbalances, crash reports, single player reseting itself, nothing. But some guy on the forums? THAT is enough to get a response from the company? astounding.

There's an NDA Tester group.
Someone attempting to break NDA, not just himself but for others (risking multiple bans), is hardly censorship.
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Re: Clarifying a recent ban

Postby Emperor1G » 25 April 2016, 17:11

Velociraptom wrote:
Emperor1G wrote:wait. so you waited months to take action on a person "trying to get people to break the NDA" until AFTER the game is released, you have his money in hand but AFTER he brings up in very detailed ways the shortcomings and failures of the game? if this was true why wasn't he removed when the NDA was in place, i.e. before the games release?


We received the reports about Hero over the weekend. We have no interest in censoring or silencing anyone, but encouraging members to break a signed legal document is just not on.


in other words, people were approached during the closed tech test, but didn't report it until this past weekend? And that doesn't at all seem strange to you? Did you bother inquiring WHEN hero allegedly did this and why they waited until now to mention it? It couldn't at all be in retaliation for the argument between tester-non testers in another thread at the moment, would it?

And you quite nicely sidestepped the point about the company having zero communication with us about the state of the game. real subtle.
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Re: Clarifying a recent ban

Postby Luna » 25 April 2016, 17:20

Crazy! So crazy! Why would you make a thread for this?? So soon after releasing you'd think there'd be more important things to talk about, like the game that you're making that became an utter shambles after Eldar release. I already refunded a while ago but I had to make an account and post here just to comment on how absolutely baffling this is! I'm still here, waiting to see if the game improves because if it did I would love to re-buy. This is just insane. I come here now just to hope that something big will change. AKA, pulsars, holofields, the abysmal game modes... this game does not feel like it has any production quality or is a game that should have went live as a "finished product". Yes, the lines between finished product and not have been so blurred by getting all the money in your hands before it is even officially released... but where has standards and integrity gone? Shame.

Sorry for going off-topic, but how ironic is it that when talking about the game and its problems is off-topic in the first official thread the team has made in ages! It's about banning some guy who was totally right about the game. You got it wrong, guys. You should probably give that guy a medal instead of banning him.

What does an NDA agreement have to do with posting on public forums, by the way ? Requesting people to give him information is -not- illegal and it has -no- impact whatsoever on his posts in a public forum. If it is a legal NDA issue then you handle it legally, this makes you look -incredibly- petty. You are going to make this guy a martyr and spawn tin-foil hat theories, and you are just going to make people angry. I don't give a flying **** about this HERO person but this has riled me up and I'm not even a paying customer (anymore).

This guy is trying to get our special testers to give him information, we'll stop him voicing his (conveniently) negative and (inconvienently) correct opinions on our public forums that we don't read anyway! That'll teach him! Bravo.

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Re: Clarifying a recent ban

Postby nandemonai » 25 April 2016, 17:22

that merits a warning at most.

Anyhow, it's up to those who signed the contract to uphold it. Reporting something this minor to the devs is childish af
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