Will the Gal'leath (Explorer) Class Battleship, be added ? Il'fannor , Lar'shi , Kass'l & Kir'qath too ?

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Will the Gal'leath (Explorer) Class Battleship, be added ? Il'fannor , Lar'shi , Kass'l & Kir'qath too ?

Postby StarSauron » 18 September 2016, 05:03

There were several Tau Ships I did miss, mostly the longer ones.

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Tau_Vessels_%28List%29
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Tau_Fleet

The Gal'leath class battleship (known as the Explorer among the Imperials

The Gal'leath class battleship (known as the Explorer among the Imperials) was the first major interstellar vessel developed by the Tau. Compared to the average speed of an Imperial ship in the warp, the Explorer could barely approach a fifth of this speed. It is also significantly less well armed and armoured, compared to most battleships. It does have a massive cargo capacity, however, and is much cheaper to produce than other ships of similar tonnage. Indeed, it was only the advent of war with the Orks that finally made the Tau design an alternate vessel for interstellar combat, a role which the Explorer is ill suited to undertake alone.

Configurations

The Explorer has undergone many different refits and reconfigurations since its inception. The two most common that are still active within the Kor'vattra are the Mk XXIII Vash'ya and the Mk XXIV Bor'kan configurations.[1]
Vash'ya Configuration

The more popular design incorporates a multi-arc prow Railgun battery, and the capacity to field eight squadrons of attack craft as well as escorts that do not have Gravitic Drives via its three Gravitic Hooks.[1]
Bor'kan Configuration

This arrangement utilises two of the flight bays to house drone controllers, allowing the ship to use Tau torpedoes.

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Gal%27l ... Battleship


This could be a cheaper version of the Custodian.


Next:: Il'fannor (Merchant) Class Cruiser & Lar'shi (Hero) Class Cruiser

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Il%27fa ... ss_Cruiser
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Lar%27shi_Class_Cruiser

Escorts
Kir'qath (Defender) Class Starship
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Kir%27q ... s_Starship

Kass'l (Orca) Gunship
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Kass%27l_Class_Gunship

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Postby Swirlby » 18 September 2016, 05:58

It's very unlikely that they would be implemented. All those older Tau ships were slow and under-armed. That's why the Kor'vattra scrapped them. You don't see the U.S. Navy using ironclads anymore, do you?
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Postby Steel*Faith » 18 September 2016, 08:19

I think it be really interesting to have in the game as a carrier that launches more Drone Squadrons and Strikecraft, as well as having improved support capability to repair other vessels, and a larger shield pool (but less armor and health) to feed other vessels shield points.

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Postby Beernchips » 18 September 2016, 11:06

Probably not.
Tindalos said they will do the FW fleet and not the GW fleet.
Also those ships are really subpar compared to the current Tau ones.
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Postby Imperator5 » 18 September 2016, 11:46

Unlikely.
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Postby Kalenath » 18 September 2016, 11:50

Beernchips wrote:Probably not.
Tindalos said they will do the FW fleet and not the GW fleet.
Also those ships are really subpar compared to the current Tau ones.


If the devs did some kind of original Damocles Gulf campaign (not the new one), the originals would likely show up.

That said, probably not. LOTS Of work to integrate brand NEW models and as Beernchips said,they are DEFINITELY subpar compared to the new ones. The BEST ship they had was the Hero class and IT wasn't a match for a Lunar class cruiser. The rest just melted anytime they found themselves under Imperial broadsides. At range, they were decent, with the missiles INSANELY powerful as now, but in every OTHER respect? No.

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Postby TheGoldenChicken » 18 September 2016, 13:11

Swirlby wrote:It's very unlikely that they would be implemented. All those older Tau ships were slow and under-armed. That's why the Kor'vattra scrapped them. You don't see the U.S. Navy using ironclads anymore, do you?


Well the imperial navy still literally uses ironclads in their navy, despite their obvious weaknesses of having no void shields. I think with the prospect of eternal war looming over the Tau, they won't be sorry to bring a few under-armed warships into battle if it means they can field far more of them than they can the custodians

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Postby Ashardalon » 18 September 2016, 13:47

those ironclads arnt new , the imps have been using those for longer than the tau exist and they arnt making new ones
tau also believe in recycling for the greater good, instead of wasting resources and crew on a outdated ship instead of making a new one isnt very tau thing to do

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Postby TheGoldenChicken » 18 September 2016, 14:32

Ashardalon wrote:those ironclads arnt new , the imps have been using those for longer than the tau exist and they arnt making new ones
tau also believe in recycling for the greater good, instead of wasting resources and crew on a outdated ship instead of making a new one isnt very tau thing to do


I am aware that the IN isn't producing anymore ships without void shields (that would be fairly dumb) and that they only use them because they're still around.

But despite that, I think that the Tau would at least consider the prospect of rearming the Ga'leath battleships with newer weapons and armor, or at least some grav hooks, after all they are battleship size ships, there's a lot that'd go to waste if they only were to recylce them, plus the tau don't have near the production capabilities of some of their opponents.

And if not for a lore perspective, I would like the Ga'leath for the sake of gameplay, another tau BB would be very welcome in my opinion, especially one that is a bit cheaper than the Custodian

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Postby Swirlby » 18 September 2016, 14:46

It seems like everyone got confused about what I was saying. I meant REAL life ironclads used by the U.S. Navy. I didn't realize ironclads were a thing in 40k. I'm still learning about the lore.
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