Gravitic hooks

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Gravitic hooks

Postby Lord Baal » 25 May 2016, 15:13

How will they be managed? I think the old fleet used them more than the forgeworld one, but their are still used. How they will work in the game? It seems it would be easy to do it with a mechanic in the fleet/point screen were the number escorts available are determined by the gravitic hooks (the escorts that require them that's it).
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Re: Gravitic hooks

Postby Scorch715 » 25 May 2016, 17:59

I'm not particularly familiar with the Tau fleets, but gravitic hooks are used to carry certain escorts that were't warp capable, right?
If thats the case, I can see them being ignored for gameplay purposes, unless they were incorporated into certain ships' point costs and the escorts themselves weren't fantastic. It's certainly an interesting concept, and if it works the way I described taking a fleet of escort carriers and creating a swarm could be a viable tactic

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Re: Gravitic hooks

Postby Cryhavok » 03 June 2016, 17:18

If I had to guess, I would guess they might be buttons to summon an escort, like the stations in our station defense missions can do, or something related to that.
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Re: Gravitic hooks

Postby Dulio12385 » 04 June 2016, 16:38

Well the thing is Tau have two types of escorts; those that are warp capable like the Defender, the Messenger and the Castellan and those that must rely on Gravitic Hooks, like the Warden and the Orca. The Tau have four ships that have Gravitic Hooks, the Explorer and Custodian Battleships and the Merchant and Emissary Cruisers. The Protector and other "big gun" cruisers do not have this feature. The Hook is, in its own way, a special ability in of itself since it allows the Tau to field a sort of Light Escort, the Warden and Orca, despite having the fire power of a full escort is notably cheaper than its warp capable brethren.

I think a good compromise would be to for the Tau to be able to field unlimited numbers of the Defender and Castallen but only limited numbers of Orca and Warden based on how many ships have Gravitic hooks, the trade off here being that the Orca and Warden would cost substantially less than a full sized escort. This would give the Tau a way to get a force of chump blockers to protect and scout for their line ships without costing them too much and it plays heavily into their "torpedoes and carriers" theme.

Alternatively the aforementioned Hook ships could have Orca escorts for free, spawning right next to them at the start of combat, then the Tau could have an upgrade that converts them to Wardens.

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Re: Gravitic hooks

Postby Halstead » 12 June 2016, 12:55

Cryhavok wrote:If I had to guess, I would guess they might be buttons to summon an escort, like the stations in our station defense missions can do, or something related to that.
.....look up Imperial Navy Favour in the IN faction - :roll:

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Re: Gravitic hooks

Postby Cryhavok » 12 June 2016, 14:53

Halstead wrote:
Cryhavok wrote:If I had to guess, I would guess they might be buttons to summon an escort, like the stations in our station defense missions can do, or something related to that.
.....look up Imperial Navy Favour in the IN faction - :roll:

I am aware of it, I used the stations as an example because more than just the IN uses them.
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Re: Gravitic hooks

Postby Galamere » 09 September 2016, 18:36

As it stands, a few ships have the hooks, letting you bring 2-3 escorts in with that ship, but they are pricy ships. But the Warden/Drow they come with have all the upgrades that your escorts have, it can make for some really nasty forces.

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Re: Gravitic hooks

Postby Ire » 10 September 2016, 21:08

Wardens don't feel good enough and cheap enough to feel like something other than a tax atm.

Please provide a "warden-less" varients, or make wardens desirable.

As it stands at no point do I currently wish I had a trio of wardens instead of another emissary or warsphere.

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Re: Gravitic hooks

Postby Sir A Harris » 14 September 2016, 11:44

I just think that tau should follow the TT rules with grav hooks, since in TT all ships cost less, but you have the choice to increase the cost slightly by attaching ships to the grav hooks
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