To smurf or not to smurf?

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Re: To smurf or not to smurf?

Postby BrianDavion » 28 April 2016, 08:35

Hjalfnar_Feuerwolf wrote:
BrianDavion wrote:
Hjalfnar_Feuerwolf wrote:+1!

Not to mention some battleships, battlecruisers and cruisers they captured through the milleniums and refused to transfer to the Imperial Navy. ;) The flagship of the Space Wolves chapter fleet is the Pride of Fenris, a Retribution-class battleship.

Also the flagship of Berek Thunderfists Great Company, the Fist of Russ, was named as a battleship or battlecruiser with a nova cannon. So either Mars or Apocalypse.


it's likely those ships are listed as being battle barges or strike cruisers in the codex... that or GW's retconning again
Hm, maybe. But that would go (again) against older fluff, according to which every Great Company as at least one Battle Barge or an equivalent.


they might have tried to reduce it then yeah, my guess is the battle barge and strike cruiser lists is also a bit weird, as the space wolves use mostly repurposed Navy vessels. so that's proably something like 2 retributions, 1 emperor, 3 mars battle cruisers, 2 grand cruisers, and a buncha cruisers and light cruisers.

it's still REDICULASLY over sized when you consider the other numbers being thrown around for chapter fleets is around 2-3 Battle barges ~8 strike cruisers and some frigates

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Re: To smurf or not to smurf?

Postby Hjalfnar_Feuerwolf » 28 April 2016, 08:43

Hey, the Wolves field around 4000 Marines instead of 1000 like this tiny little codex chapters.^^ They need these ship for, you know...I WANT TO HIT THEM WITH MY AXE!
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Re: To smurf or not to smurf?

Postby BrianDavion » 28 April 2016, 09:15

Hjalfnar_Feuerwolf wrote:Hey, the Wolves field around 4000 Marines instead of 1000 like this tiny little codex chapters.^^ They need these ship for, you know...I WANT TO HIT THEM WITH MY AXE!



Space Wolves are a little smaller then that, Ragner Blackmane's company consists of 188 marines (ref Codex Space Wolves 7th edition) and is "second only to Logan Grimnar's company in size" if we take this and assume 200 marines for each of the 12 great companies we get a size of 2400 Marines for the space wolves :)

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Re: To smurf or not to smurf?

Postby Gnofry » 28 April 2016, 12:59

This ends up being really interesting because if you look at the legion numbers Space Wolves had around 30k at the time of the heresy and they weren't really broken up at all (except for the Wolf Brothers or whatever that will not be named). So over the past 10k years they have lost 27k more marines than they have gained.

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Re: To smurf or not to smurf?

Postby MadDemiurg » 28 April 2016, 13:27

I just wanted to chime in with an idea for the Ultramarine favour:

Ability 1: Codex - you can't control ships directly, they follow a preset behaviour
Ability 2: Emperor's finest - Even if you lose, you're still considered victorious. You get victory renown and the enemy gets defeat renown

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Re: To smurf or not to smurf?

Postby Necro » 28 April 2016, 15:41

Angry marines favour:

1) Ramming enemy ships causes 10 boarding actions on enemy ships
2) Instead of insubordination Angry marines ship goes berserk, taunts enemy ship and will try to ram it until ienemy ship or angry marines ship die.


Special upgrades :
-macro cannons shoot angry marines - each shot have 25% of sucessful boarding action
- all torpedoes are causing boarding actions
- commisar fuklaw - ship got +500 HP but can only ram, and will attack any allied or player ship when it try to escape

Special rule :
-Angry marine ship got 50% of exploding when escaping to wark as agry marines on board go angry
When full ahead is triggered angry marines ship lose 5 Hp per second due to angry marines waring themselves up for fihting abd beating all in sight.
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Re: To smurf or not to smurf?

Postby MadDemiurg » 28 April 2016, 15:43

Necro wrote:Angry marines favour:

1) Ramming enemy ships causes 10 boarding actions on enemy ships
2) Instead of insubordination Angry marines ship goes berserk, taunts enemy ship and will try to ram it until ienemy ship or angry marines ship die.

- All torpedoes are causing boarding actions

Special upgrades :
-macro cannons shoot angry marines - each shot have 25% of sucessful boarding action
- all torpedoes are causing boarding actions


You don't shoot torpedoes, you just shoot marines from torpedo tubes through space.

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Re: To smurf or not to smurf?

Postby Necro » 28 April 2016, 15:48

MadDemiurg wrote:
Necro wrote:Angry marines favour:

1) Ramming enemy ships causes 10 boarding actions on enemy ships
2) Instead of insubordination Angry marines ship goes berserk, taunts enemy ship and will try to ram it until ienemy ship or angry marines ship die.

- All torpedoes are causing boarding actions

Special upgrades :
-macro cannons shoot angry marines - each shot have 25% of sucessful boarding action
- all torpedoes are causing boarding actions


You don't shoot torpedoes, you just shoot marines from torpedo tubes through space.


Yes but its whole squad per torpedo tube and here is used rule "counts as" so angry marines here counts as boarding torpedoes.

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Re: To smurf or not to smurf?

Postby Imperator5 » 28 April 2016, 17:39

My opinion on the subject:

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Please help me change skirmish to be customisable. Its very important for PVE players.

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Re: To smurf or not to smurf?

Postby Necro » 28 April 2016, 18:55

no no no
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