How do you beat ork Zap kannons as SM?

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How do you beat ork Zap kannons as SM?

Postby Freelancer1495 » 25 June 2016, 00:05

so, im constantly getting wrecked as SM against orks because of their zap kannons. I tried kiting and launching assault boats, but got wrecked by the zzap kannon. So next time i tried brawling with boarding and still got destroyed (i didnt get rammed once). I also tried target their weapons first but couldnt get anything done before the kannons just destroyed me. I thought orks were supposed to be ram oriented and close range, not long range? Any help???????
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Re: How do you beat ork Zap kannons as SM?

Postby Sagranda » 25 June 2016, 00:11

Currently I have only two ideas how you could do it.
Use the long range recon skill (Ork ships are bad at evading) and spam them with mass boarding torpedoes.

Just overload them with normal torpedo walls and kill them that way.

Aside from it: Dodge the MU, hide until you can warp out or just concede at the beginning of the match
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Re: How do you beat ork Zap kannons as SM?

Postby Azrael » 28 June 2016, 00:46

Sagranda wrote:Aside from it: Dodge the MU, hide until you can warp out or just concede at the beginning of the match

That's what I am doing. I will ask if they are spamming zap guns, and if they answer affirmative then I just capitulate. If I find out they are spamming zap, I capitulate. Running to hide and warp out doesn't work as they pursue and fire boarding torpedoes.

Sure, I don't make any renown, but I don't lose my ships, either.

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Re: How do you beat ork Zap kannons as SM?

Postby Imperator5 » 29 June 2016, 06:49

Azrael wrote:
Sagranda wrote:Aside from it: Dodge the MU, hide until you can warp out or just concede at the beginning of the match

That's what I am doing. I will ask if they are spamming zap guns, and if they answer affirmative then I just capitulate. If I find out they are spamming zap, I capitulate. Running to hide and warp out doesn't work as they pursue and fire boarding torpedoes.

Sure, I don't make any renown, but I don't lose my ships, either.


Doesn't capitulate makes them lost in the warp?
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Re: How do you beat ork Zap kannons as SM?

Postby RwWolf » 29 June 2016, 07:09

Not if you alt-f4/kill process.

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Re: How do you beat ork Zap kannons as SM?

Postby Sagranda » 29 June 2016, 09:15

Imperator5 wrote:
Azrael wrote:
Sagranda wrote:Aside from it: Dodge the MU, hide until you can warp out or just concede at the beginning of the match

That's what I am doing. I will ask if they are spamming zap guns, and if they answer affirmative then I just capitulate. If I find out they are spamming zap, I capitulate. Running to hide and warp out doesn't work as they pursue and fire boarding torpedoes.

Sure, I don't make any renown, but I don't lose my ships, either.


Doesn't capitulate makes them lost in the warp?


It is something like a 45% chance that they get lost in the warp
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Re: How do you beat ork Zap kannons as SM?

Postby Zargor » 29 June 2016, 09:26

This is kinda the problem the orks had with closing in. In order to bring my Deathdeala to fight I would have upgrades to make ship undetected while boosting + boost refill skill + MWJ with expanded sensors + boos refill upgrade. I would then try to close the distance very quickly with jump + megaboost. Dunno if it would work with SM but you can run silent so should be actually easier.

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Re: How do you beat ork Zap kannons as SM?

Postby Ubikuuu » 29 June 2016, 10:52

RwWolf wrote:alt-f4/kill process.


The right answer.

Now that I have a full lvl 10 ships Zzap fleet let me confirm: you don't.
2xHammer + 2xTerror + Basha.
6xZzaps + 5xTowers + 28xTorps + 6xHangars.

Kite and homing torps is just an inconvenience, wastes both yours and theirs time.
Mass escorts has no chance of doing any relevant damage.
Double Barge gets wrecked by literally two right-clicks, but it might deal some damage to a Krooza.
Smaller ships get one-shotted by a Zzap salvo.
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Re: How do you beat ork Zap kannons as SM?

Postby MYNAME? » 10 July 2016, 23:49

ATM only brawler fleets have a slight chance of defeating Zapp pro troll fleets.

SM gets rekt every time. Lance chaos gets owned and even eldar have trouble vs zap spam.


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