NEVER Use Chaos Battleships They Are Terrible

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NEVER Use Chaos Battleships They Are Terrible

Postby Hunlow » 11 May 2016, 05:50

Just lost a dog fight to an Archeron with my level 8 Slanneshi Desolator with minor damage. He had full life with no favors and I only had my front launch bays gone with nearly the same hp (slightly higher). These ships are worthless. They do garbage damage, are garbage slow and don't have a single redeeming quality. Our Battle Cruisers out shoot them and the is NEVER any reason to take them over smaller ships. They serve zero purpose in this game in the Chaos line up. Just take them out so new players don't have to suffer through leveling the up only to find out the futility of these monuments to failure.

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Re: NEVER Use Chaos Battleships They Are Terrible

Postby Bosie » 11 May 2016, 07:18

Chaos BB's are weak when compared to the rest of the fleet. This is more a showing of how strong the rest of the line up is rather than how poor they are.

I'd be interested in seeing that fight as it could be the way both ships were positioned that caused the defeat. I'm saying this as I went 1 on 1 with a frigate last night against an imperial BC and was able to do some serious damage before I was taken down.
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Re: NEVER Use Chaos Battleships They Are Terrible

Postby Beernchips » 11 May 2016, 08:18

Desolator don t have launch bays so I assume it was Despoiler
Acheron is a lance boat, your despoiler is a carrier who lost half is bay capacity and you are suprised he was nearly losing vs a full hp Acheron?

BBs are not golden ships able to win almost situation. If your carrier BB (either despoiler or Emperor) is engaged by brawler ships or combat sjips (long range macro or lance) it is normal he loses because bombers are not really efficent against a lot of defenseive turrets like a full BC will have
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Re: NEVER Use Chaos Battleships They Are Terrible

Postby BrianDavion » 11 May 2016, 08:56

Also cruisers are supposed to be more manuverable. you say dogfight so I'm gonna take you at your word, if you're truning and burning in a fight with a cruiser he's gonna win if he's smart. a smart curiser skipper'll stick to a BB's 6 (where he knows there is a blind spot) and whittle you down

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Re: NEVER Use Chaos Battleships They Are Terrible

Postby CALiGeR190 » 11 May 2016, 09:48

Hunlow wrote:Just lost a dog fight to an Archeron with my level 8 Slanneshi Desolator with minor damage. He had full life with no favors and I only had my front launch bays gone with nearly the same hp (slightly higher). These ships are worthless. They do garbage damage, are garbage slow and don't have a single redeeming quality. Our Battle Cruisers out shoot them and the is NEVER any reason to take them over smaller ships. They serve zero purpose in this game in the Chaos line up. Just take them out so new players don't have to suffer through leveling the up only to find out the futility of these monuments to failure.

Chaos Battleships are surport warships, as they are in the fluff, that rely heavily on the Chaos Cruiser superiority to bring thier firepower to bare.
In the game you shouldn't be getting them into one-on-one fights, the Despoiler specifically has very nice carrier capacity and frontal Lance firepower, so keep it close to your cruisers so it can provide heavy burst that may otherwise be lacking in the fleet.

If you're Turing an burning with a Chaos Heavy Cruiser you will lose, he is simply too much faster and more mobile and packs very similar firepower. The other way you can use a BB is as a tank, upgarding it's Sheilds and equipping it with sheild related skills and using it to draw fire from the cruisers.

I stress again: these Arn't IN BBs which are the mainstay of the fleet, Chaos operate based on thier cruiser strength.
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Re: NEVER Use Chaos Battleships They Are Terrible

Postby MYNAME? » 11 May 2016, 21:44

Hunlow wrote:Just lost a dog fight to an Archeron with my level 8 Slanneshi Desolator with minor damage. He had full life with no favors and I only had my front launch bays gone with nearly the same hp (slightly higher). These ships are worthless. They do garbage damage, are garbage slow and don't have a single redeeming quality. Our Battle Cruisers out shoot them and the is NEVER any reason to take them over smaller ships. They serve zero purpose in this game in the Chaos line up. Just take them out so new players don't have to suffer through leveling the up only to find out the futility of these monuments to failure.


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Re: NEVER Use Chaos Battleships They Are Terrible

Postby W1nD » 22 May 2016, 01:23

In the Lexicanum and the Lore it states that they are mostly support ships and generally move with an escort of two cruisers. I have played many battles as the battleship or as the two cruiser escort and we have won against any combination including eldar and even double chaos.
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