How do you play vs 3 Nova Imp ships?

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How do you play vs 3 Nova Imp ships?

Postby Spector » 05 May 2016, 12:18

I have a mix of: Hellbringers LC (2x Khorne and 2x Tzeentch), 2xbrawler Nurgle Carnage Cruisers + a long range one with Slaanesh, Styx Battle cruiser with Slaanesh, Acheron 15k lance Slaanesh and a Despoiler 15k lances with Tzeentch.
(my abilities are overcharged shields and taunt on brawlers, extra fuel, augur disruptors and overcharged shields on BC and just beacons or augur disruptors on LC)
Until Admiral level 8 I was playing with only carrier kite fleets vs Imps and it worked like a charm every time.

But then when I hit level 8, I started getting matched vs Imp who 90% of the time had 2+ nova cannons. On top of that after the ELO patch I started getting match to the SAME Imp player every time I would hit Search. (shutout to the Imp player with a Hyperion named admiral for great battles)

So I tried out my tried and tested fleet vs Imps. 3 or 4 Hellbringers + a Styx. First time I tried using bombers and got shredded by the nova cannon before doing enough dmg. Then next time I tried the same setup but used Assault boats, 9k targeting range and aimed for their weapon systems. This had a better effect but I would get rammed depending on the enemy ships abilities (MWJ+taunt).

Then I turned the page and started using my brawlers against Imp fleets. 1 or 2 Nurgle Carnage Cruisers at 3k range with AP rounds + Acheron or long range Carnage and Styx for long range support and shields striping. Some battles I would target the engines, sometimes the generators and sometimes the weapons. Again, depending on the enemies abilities I would win easy or lose badly.

So basically what I am saying is that I have yet to find a proper way of dealing with those Nova guns on Imp ships. If targeting specific weapons where possible I would just go in there, take out the Novas with guns and boarding/assault actions and kite away. What are your experiences and thoughts on this matter?
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Re: How do you play vs 3 Nova Imp ships?

Postby MYNAME? » 05 May 2016, 23:01

Are you playing with a kite fleet or brawler fleet. If you are kite fleet you shouldnt have a problem if you spec them right. Just keep your shields up and run with some shield transfers on your BCs to keep your smaller ships from being . overwhelmed.

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Re: How do you play vs 3 Nova Imp ships?

Postby BrianDavion » 11 May 2016, 02:05

don't bunch up. honestly nova cannons are pretty under whelming, unless he;s lucky, or unless you bunch large number of ships up like sardines, he's not gonna do much

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Re: How do you play vs 3 Nova Imp ships?

Postby Bludfist » 11 May 2016, 02:20

3 novas pffft thats nothing

wait till you met the really weird orks player fielding 5-6 nova's in 700 pt matches :twisted:
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Re: How do you play vs 3 Nova Imp ships?

Postby Beernchips » 11 May 2016, 12:04

Is he using 3 Dominators or a mix of Dominators and Mars?

IF he uses Mars, You should use brawler fleet (slaughter or carngae) + Styx or Acheron as long range support
If he uses only Dominators, you could try a different range fleet with 15k Acheron, 12k Styx and 2 9k Carnages. Like that the Novas can never hit more than 1 target and you have enough range to allow kiting of the 6k range Domintor
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Re: How do you play vs 3 Nova Imp ships?

Postby Bludfist » 11 May 2016, 14:16

Beernchips wrote:Is he using 3 Dominators or a mix of Dominators and Mars?

IF he uses Mars, You should use brawler fleet (slaughter or carngae) + Styx or Acheron as long range support
If he uses only Dominators, you could try a different range fleet with 15k Acheron, 12k Styx and 2 9k Carnages. Like that the Novas can never hit more than 1 target and you have enough range to allow kiting of the 6k range Domintor

well

its not like you can see other peoples ship list before the engagement starts and can reactivly create your own ship lists
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Re: How do you play vs 3 Nova Imp ships?

Postby Ire » 20 May 2016, 20:32

It can be pretty important to remember that bombers and assault boats are more effective against damaged/isolated ships.

If it's domis, Send in the nurgle, get one of the ships hurt, then trade off - let the bombers finish off the cripple while you start pounding on a secondary.

If it's mars, watch for if they are using defensive fighters. If not, see above strat. If they are, use your bombers against something else (or pack along a torp escort to distract the fighters while the bombers are on approach).

Another thing to consider is the nova cannons have difficulty surviving a ram. I don't advocate ramming them head on, but, in my xp, nova cannon ships like the domi and mars tend to not want to ram you for fear of loosing the nova. Plus, these are the ships that can t have torps or ram prows. It's far from reliable but it's much safer to park yourself in front of a mars than a tyrant.

And as has been said above - don't be bunch up. A nova cannon is at its heart only a 3-3.5dps weapon. If it hits. It multiplies its dps if you let it hit multiple targets tho.

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Re: How do you play vs 3 Nova Imp ships?

Postby Shaftoe » 21 May 2016, 08:30

Very easily, go in close combat and focus one ship, then another and the last one. Ram is in order. Yes, close quarters is Imperials battlefield, but they're vulnerable too. Fast and furious - two words on how to combat the IN.

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Re: How do you play vs 3 Nova Imp ships?

Postby WheelJerk » 23 June 2016, 22:34

RAMMING SPEED!!!!
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