Pleb Squasher wrote: Carl wrote:
If you don't take range accuracy penalties into account your analysis is invalid.
Also you do know my DPS sheets have all the figures for you tabled in a nice spreadsheet don't you
. You could have just used those and saved yourself some effort
Nope my analysis is not invalid. Range is not a significant factor in this debate. I am debating that the Retribution does not do sufficient damage, this applies at all ranges. Both ships are armed primarily with macro weapons, in fact the only battery damage in this scenario which isn't macro comes from the Retribution's lance turrets. So there's only 36 guaranteed hit damage coming from the Retribution in a scenario where we are working with damage values in the hundreds. Also aside from these lances, both ships are effected the same way regarding their macros at different ranges.
It really really isn't important here to bother considering range. The differences in capability/damage are marginal due to only a small amount of damage coming from the Retribution's lances which are guaranteed to hit. If you want to go all the way to tell me the percentage change in damage between the Emperor and the Retribution at 3k, 6k, 9k and 12k then be my guest, it doesn't change the state the Retribution is in and absolutely doesn't invalidate my argument.
Yeah I would use your sheets but it's a bit much effort to find the information I want from them. I wanted everyone to be able to understand my calcs so that's why I put them here. Also I'm working per 12 seconds here
at first, i don´t say that this ships don`t need a buff. the best cost/use-factor have the emporer/dominator/Mars. they have answers to each question, 3k, 6k, 9k, 12k, without upgrades. retri, overlord, gothic only have answers to 9k, 12k, 15k, and this only with upgrades.
my opinion is, that your dmg-sheet is false, if you make it with 12k range, because the emporer cannot come in the near of 100 dmg/12sec in this range because it looses 80% of it`s broadside damage, without accuracy upgrade, and, i mean 60% of damage with accuracy upgrade.