BrianDavion wrote:Melcyna wrote:BrianDavion wrote:
except they're not suits in the same manner as power armor. I woulda thought that would be obvious from anyone taking a look at a firewarrior compared to a riptide. and yet again, we're talking aestetics. not control type. the "suits" (and hey gundam refers to their mecha as suits too for some reason unfathomable to me) look very anime.
and that's intended. it's pretty widely known that the Tau where created in an attempt to crack into the asian market
And i don't doubt or contest that they probably designed it to be more marketable in the eastern side...
but we can't use the term 'mecha' for it because there's an actual defined meaning for that term that covers both western and eastern style for it.
and power armor don't qualify as a mecha, and battlesuits ARE power armor (that can jump), they WEAR them... and control them pretty much as their own limb. They are not piloting it as much as the suits are simply an extension of themselves.
Think of the power fist for example, or the Terminators or the Starcarft2 marines suit which has an arm that is not exactly a glove over the user's own arm (because that'd be PROPORTIONALLY VERY ODD and FUNNY since their head is tiny compared to the rest of the limbs if that was the case), but the suit is controlled very much like an extension of himself.
ok first of all I know what Mecha is. if my name didn't clue you in, I play battletech.
incidently yes space marine armor IS worn like a suit, yeah the proportions are funny, but the ghames always been like that (Cadians have over sized hands for example) they're more like a dreadknight then a suit of space marine power armor.
and yet again you're missing the point, the point is they LOOK like anime mecha.
The Davions and Steiners both can burn in gu**CENSORED**
err were was I?
"and yet again you're missing the point, the point is they LOOK like anime mecha"
the point i've been trying to convey is that DON'T CALL them mecha because they are not, and what they look like have practically no effect.
you don't call the Dreadnoughts as Titans for example, but if you ask someone not familiar with the lore they'd think it'll qualify if they don't see the scale... and if look is all that matters then heck, most terms available would be freely interchangeable because let's face it... most things in 40K share very similar aesthetic among each family...
Wraith Guards... Wraith Lords... Predator... BaneBlade...
but we know each is a term that is NOT interchangeable regardless of how they look
we don't get to define it in our own definition just because we think they look similar... and in the same way, the term 'mecha' is already defined whether we like it or not... and unfortunately (or fortunately depending on how you look at it) power armor and other form of worn powered exoskeleton suits don't qualify for it, and that definition doesn't care if the suit is from east or west...
incidentally, if you are curious why Gundam used the term Mobile Suits:
hint: Heinlein's Starship Trooper
probably the first sci fi description and usage in literature of power armor suit.