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by Adrmial Seraph
12 September 2016, 21:27
Forum: Beta Discussion
Topic: Demiurg ships
Replies: 360
Views: 45084

Re: Demiurg ships

I think the exact opposite. It's surporting fleet is much faster than it and will either slow down the whole fleet for be left behind and out of its effective range. The fact it's so large and not particularly well armoured works against it just as much as it can work for it. It's vulnerable to ram...
by Adrmial Seraph
12 September 2016, 21:21
Forum: Beta Discussion
Topic: Marker+Extra Turrets+Seeker=op Messenger spam.
Replies: 423
Views: 47415

Re: Marker+Extra Turrets+Seeker=op Messenger spam.

We seem to have a misunderstanding here, I'm comparing one against the other on an individual basis, not as a fleet. I'm trying to argue with that a Dhow is doubly likely to get within 3K range, has (nearly) double the potential with seekers and a much superior base armament. I wasn't trying to arg...
by Adrmial Seraph
12 September 2016, 21:11
Forum: Beta Discussion
Topic: Demiurg ships
Replies: 360
Views: 45084

Re: Demiurg ships

Stronghold is very strong for weaponary considering a its price... But it's painfully slow and is very fragile for a BB if we exclude the fact it doesn't lose HP to astaroids. It has 1000 HP, no more than 50 armour, will jump without chance of execution of the hull drops below 30% and has a range o...
by Adrmial Seraph
12 September 2016, 21:09
Forum: Beta Discussion
Topic: Marker+Extra Turrets+Seeker=op Messenger spam.
Replies: 423
Views: 47415

Re: Marker+Extra Turrets+Seeker=op Messenger spam.

Then we agree to disagree. Doubling the HP and sheild doubles the DPS value of the seekers since it can apply it's DPS over double the duration of time. The improved railguns just adding to that. Fair enough they can chase targets more effectively but ANY AoE or effective ramming instantly ruins th...
by Adrmial Seraph
12 September 2016, 20:51
Forum: Beta Discussion
Topic: Demiurg ships
Replies: 360
Views: 45084

Re: Demiurg ships

They are cool but the Stronghold is pretty overpowered currently. It has way, way, waaaaaay too much weaponry for it's point cost. Not being able to upgrade its crew or get any favors beyond Water Caste don't compensate for it's utterly insane damage output, beefy hull and reasonable turn rate. At ...
by Adrmial Seraph
12 September 2016, 20:44
Forum: Beta Discussion
Topic: Marker+Extra Turrets+Seeker=op Messenger spam.
Replies: 423
Views: 47415

Re: Marker+Extra Turrets+Seeker=op Messenger spam.

I get your point but I don't agree with it because you're significantly reducing your seeker dps by using Dhows and Dhow railguns do not make up for the lost dps. Sure they last a bit longer but the idea behind messenger spam is to use expendable ships to maul the opponent's fleet, you expect to lo...
by Adrmial Seraph
12 September 2016, 19:54
Forum: Beta Discussion
Topic: Thoughts on Tau
Replies: 284
Views: 40010

Re: Thoughts on Tau

Yea I mainly play 2v2s. Since I'm lvl 8 and the guy I play with also has a lvl 8 Tau Admiral and a lvl 7 Imp Admiral, we normally get matched up where our opponents have 330 or 315 points to our 300. It would be awesome if the Messenger was dropped to 32 points since at 300 it would be easy to max ...
by Adrmial Seraph
12 September 2016, 19:09
Forum: General Gameplay Discussion
Topic: Tac Cog bmers
Replies: 29
Views: 4127

Re: Tac Cog bmers

Well, frankly, if people are going to bm with tac cog and the community won't take it seriously then I'll just end task the program when I see it happen. Frankly, with the regulars I see online it's not really a big issue, it's only in beta that it's been a problem. Specifically after I started test...
by Adrmial Seraph
12 September 2016, 19:00
Forum: Beta Discussion
Topic: Marker+Extra Turrets+Seeker=op Messenger spam.
Replies: 423
Views: 47415

Re: Marker+Extra Turrets+Seeker=op Messenger spam.

It's not a problem on line ships, you can't have enough turrets to gib things and Tau aren't exactly amazing @ 3k range. It's only a problem on messengers because messenger point cost is so cheap AND they have 6 turrets baseline. Do the math, the only way you can squeeze in mass seeker spam is by m...
by Adrmial Seraph
12 September 2016, 18:55
Forum: Beta Discussion
Topic: Marker+Extra Turrets+Seeker=op Messenger spam.
Replies: 423
Views: 47415

Re: Marker+Extra Turrets+Seeker=op Messenger spam.

It's not a problem on line ships, you can't have enough turrets to gib things and Tau aren't exactly amazing @ 3k range. It's only a problem on messengers because messenger point cost is so cheap AND they have 6 turrets baseline. Do the math, the only way you can squeeze in mass seeker spam is by m...

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